Monday, July 8, 2019

Honda HDS HIM clone any good?

Look here: Honda diagnostic system HDS HIM reviews

Review: Honda HDS HIM

Honda HDS (Honda & Acura Diagnostic System) is the latest diagnostic software for Honda vehicles. Diagnostic functions available for vehicles of HONDA/ACURA from year 1992 to 2007. Test coverage: Dynamical, Body, Chassis, ABS, SRS, Anti-theft, etc. HDS supports CAN BUS system, and it can re-program the Auto ECU.
HIM is the host with double board (see picture below).
So Honda HDS is the copied software load on a third-party HIM firmware. You need an RS-232 port on your computer. If your computer doesn’t natively have one, you’ll need a USB->RS-232 adapter. Software updates frequently.
I have successfully used the TPMS features, CKP relearn, idle relearn, ECU reset, and cleared DTS faults. I believe this thing can data log, reprogram gauge clusters, and reprogram the immobilizer for new keys, but have not tried these things yet.
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Review: I used HIM for Learning the Throttle Position

I finally figure out how to get my HIM diagnostic tools running. Thanks Jibberjabbs.

So I bought this off obdii365.com exactly months ago,
Good seller, fast shipping, and I haven’t tried it until yesterday.
I install the software following the video, but somehow I can’t get the unit to connect.
I do notice that when I plug in my USB to Serial adapter that came included with this unit, the laptop told me fail to install driver… so after doing deduction, I finally realize the problem is the USB to Serial Adapter.
I tried to install the driver that came with the USB to Serial Adapter, but the software have error, could not even start installing it.
I look at the website and try to download from the manufacturer, but each time I click download, it is block by the host/manufacturer website…
what the…

so I think,… hmmm there must be only handful of chip manufacturer for this device so I RANDOMLY download several USB to Serial adapter from internet and finally by trial and error (luckily I am right on the second download), I got the serial driver to work!

Ok.. so I test again and I still fail to connect,
so I look at the best source for Honda Fit which is… FITFREAK hahaha…
and got into this thread and realize that Jibberjabbs point out, I need to set to
COM1

Yes, that is the key COM1,…

and I just finished using this HIM for Learning the Throttle Position again after installing the MaxBore Larger Throttle Body !!!

I am so relief and happy now…
because this open another way for the Sprintex install that will need this tool!


Review: very powerful; you can everything the dealer can

So I have had a lot of question on my HDS clone setup lately so I thought I would do a bit of a review. HDS is a general term for Honda’s Diagnostic System. HIM is the specific tool (Honda Interface Module). Honda has had several tools, the HIM is two or three generations old, but the newer ones are not cloned yet (GNA600 & MVCI).
So if you don’t know there are all kinds of clones of Honda’s HDS HIM diagnostic system out there on the internet. I made a leap of faith and picked one up online, sent from China about two years ago to reprogram my TPMS sensors (I hate you Honda for this TPMS crap system). I was hesitant because it did not state that it supported my 2011 Fit. The cracked HDS software version that came with it did not cover my car, but I was able to find a newer version (V2.024.05) on the internet that worked. I have successfully used the TPMS features, CKP relearn, idle relearn, ECU reset, and cleared DTS faults. I belive this thing can data log, reprogram gauge clusters, and reprogram the immobilizer for new keys, but have not tried these things yet.
Here is a pic of mine if it helps.
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It came with various connectors for self-verification testing too.
So the HDS only has a RS232 DB9 serial port (no usb),and most laptops don’t have them anymore. The adaptor will plug into your laptops usb and replicate a RS232 port. You will probably need a RS232 to USB adaptor too. I have always had good luck with FTDI adapters. Future Technology Devices Intl – UC232R-10 The HDS will only connect to com port 1. So you may have to change your com port assigned number when you use a usb adapter. I have only used the HDS on a windows XP laptop so I cannot confirm this works on newer Windows.
Here is another possible option I have not tried yet, but would love to because it is much cheaper and uses USB! Looks like it uses the same HDS software!
http://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/drewtech-honda-mongoose-tool-1702.html
And if you are going to do TPMS you might want to look at triggering tools, if not you have to deflate and re-inflate a wheel to trigger the sensor. Our TPMS sensors only only transmit when they are spinning over ~26MPH, detect a rapid pressure change, or are triggered with a 125Mhz signal.
Overall this is a very powerful tool that lets you do about everything the dealer can!
The factory service manual pretty much explains how to use the HDS in all of Honda’s trouble shooting procedures. All of the things I have used have matched up, like TPMS and CKP relearn.
Here are a few more things it claims to do:
Honda functions include:
• DTC reading and clearing
• Snapshot function (capture data relative to a trigger event)
• Vehicle data display (value, line graph, or bar graph formats)
• DLC locator diagrams
• Data list display (real-time display of ECU parameters)
• Onboard tutorial
• Generic scan tool runs basic tests on non-Honda/Acura vehicles (HDS Tablet and Pocket Tester only)
• Control module update functions (HDS Tablet and Pocket Tester only)


The factory service manual pretty much explains how to use the HDS in all of Honda’s trouble shooting procedures. All of the things I have used have matched up, like TPMS and CKP relearn.


Here are a few more things it claims to do:

Honda functions include:
  • DTC reading and clearing
  • Snapshot function (capture data relative to a trigger event)
  • Vehicle data display (value, line graph, or bar graph formats)
  • DLC locator diagrams
  • Data list display (real-time display of ECU parameters)
  • Onboard tutorial
  • Generic scan tool runs basic tests on non-Honda/Acura vehicles (HDS Tablet and Pocket Tester only)
  • Control module update functions (HDS Tablet and Pocket Tester only)

Honda Diagnostic System HDS Diagnosis Programming FAQs

Look here: Honda Diagnostic System HDS user manual by questions and answers:
HDS hardware
HDS software
HDS diagnosis
HDS reflash
HDS subscription

Hardware

  1. Q: Is the Bosch MVCI or Denso DST-I compatible with Windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10?A: Yes, Windows 7 Professional (32 and 64 bit), Windows 8, 8.1 Professional (32 and 64 bit), and Windows 10 Professional (32 and 64 bit) are supported.
  2. Q: Can I use the new HDS software with the HIM or GNA600A: No, the GNA600 ONLY work with HDS software old version 2.027.003: http://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/honda-gna600-new-version-2011-v2024.html
For HDS new version 3.102.004, you should use it with HIM: http://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/honda-hds-him-diagnostic-tool-with-double-board.html
  1. Q: Is a J2534 interface device (such as those supplied by Actia, Blue Streak Electronics, Bosch, Drew technologies, Ease Diagnostics, Snap-on, etc.) compatible for programming key and code information?A: No, generic J2534 devices are for re-programming only and must use the Honda Pass-Thru Reprogramming (J2534) software. For further information, refer to your device supplier’s documentation or website.
  2. Q: Can I use a generic J2534 interface device (such as those supplied by Actia, Blue Streak Electronics, Bosch, Drew technologies, Ease Diagnostics, Snap-on, etc.) with HDS?
    A: No, HDS software will only work with a PC and the Modular Vehicle Communications Interface (MVCI) or HIM.
  3. Q: Can I connect the Bosch MCVI or DENSO DST-i unit to my HDS computer in WiFi mode?A: Yes.

Software

PC requirement
  1. Q: Can I use a MAC instead of a PC for HDS?A: No. Look here: the system requirements
Personal Computer (PC)
  • Laptop or desktop computer
  • Intel or AMD processor: 2.0 GHz or higher
  • Keyboard & mouse
  • Memory (RAM): 1GB or higher
  • Hard Drive Space: 20 GB or more
  • Floppy Drive: not required
  • USB: 1.0 or higher
  • Network Card: 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet
  • Optical Drive: 8x DVD-ROM
  • Video Resolution: see Display Requirements
  • Sound Card: 1 channel audio or higher
  • Internal or external audio speakers
Operating System
USA Tool Requirements
HDS software and J2534software:
Windows 7 Professional (32 bit and 64 bit)
Windows 8 Professional (32 bit and 64 bit)
Windows 8.1 Professional (32 bit and 64 bit)
Windows 10 Professional (32 bit and 64 bit)
Canada Tool Requirements
HDS:
Windows 7 Professional (32 bit and 64 bit)
Windows 8 Professional (32 bit and 64 bit)
Windows 8.1 Professional (32 bit and 64 bit)
Windows 10 Professional (32 bit and 64 bit)
Display
  • Recommended display resolution is 1024 x 768 with the large font setting.
  • 800 x 600 will work, but some procedures work better at the higher resolution.
Web Browser
ServiceExpress requires Internet Explorer 10 or 11; Chrome ver.44*, Firefox Ver.40, Safari Ver.8
  • Earlier versions of Internet Explorer are not supported.
  • Netscape, AOL are not supported.
  • Internet connection: 56k or faster.
Viewer Requirements
  • ServiceExpress requires Adobe Acrobat Reader version 11 or higher.
  • To download the latest version of Acrobat Reader, click here
  • NOTE: Uninstall prior versions of Acrobat Reader before installing the recommended update. For more detailed information about Acrobat Reader, please visit www.adobe.com
  • ServiceExpress requires Adobe SVG Viewer version 3.03 or higher when using Internet Explorer or Edge.
  • To download the latest version of Adobe SVG Reader, click here
  • NOTE: For more detailed information about Adobe SVG Reader, please visit www.adobe.com.
  • ServiceExpress requires PDF Viewer extension when using Chrome.
  • To download the latest version of PDF Viewer extension, click here and search for PDF Viewer.
Internet Explorer Settings
  • Cookies must be enabled
  • Javascript must be enabled
  • NOTE: Uninstall prior versions of Acrobat Reader before installing the recommended update. For more detailed information about Acrobat Reader, please visit www.adobe.com.
Note: These are generally the default settings for Internet Explorer.

HDS Diagnostics

  1. Q: What is the cost of the various diagnostic software subscriptions?
    A: Click on the “Tools Info” tab at the top of the ServiceExpress web-page for pricing and other tool related information.
  2. Q: How do I install HDS software and what are the requirements?A: Windows 7 32 bit is the one tested by pros. For HDS installation, pls watch the video:
  1. Q: How do i get the HDS software and the updates?A: The HDS software download link can be found here: http://blog.obdii365.com/2017/06/16/free-download-honda-him-hds-3-102-004-and-i-hds/. When software updates are released, you can get new links on the official blog: http://blog.obdii365.com/.
  2. Q: Can I install HDS software and other OEM’s diagnostic software on the same PC?A: This may or may not be possible, depending on the other OEM’s software. You may need to uninstall the other diagnostic software in order to use the HDS.
  3. Q: Will HDS software work with interface devices other than the MVCI, such as J2534 devices, HIM, GNA600, Ford VCM, etc.?A: No, HDS will work with the MVCI and HIM diagnostic tool.
  4. Q: Does the HDS software package retrieve codes for ABS, AIRBAG, and CHECK ENGINE?
    A: It depends on the year of the vehicle. Some older vehicles may not have the capability. Consult the Service Manual for specific model and year.

HDS Reprogramming (Reflash)

  1. Q: How do I reprogram the ECU?A: Both HIM clone and genuine can do ECU reprogramming for Honda.
  2. Q: Is there an easy way to find out if there is updated programming for an ECM/PCM/ECU of a specific make or model?A: No, you have to install and run one of the supported update applications with the required hardware.
  3. Q: Are all vehicle ECM’s, PCM’s, and ECU’s reprogrammable?A: No, ECM/PCM reprogrammability was phased in between 2001 and 2005. All 2006 and later models ECM/PCMs are reprogrammable. The reprogramming software will indicate whether an update is available.
  4. Q: I have a J2534 interface device. How do I purchase software?A: Click on the “Tools Info” tab at the top of the ServiceExpress web-page, then click on Free Download in software column for the “Honda Pass-Thru Reprogramming (J2534).
  5. Q: I currently have a MVCI and HDS software. How do I get the ECU update for a 2004 Acura RSX?
    A: You must have the latest HDS software installed on your PC. If an update is available, the software will recognize this and prompt you to install it.
  6. Q: What other control modules can I reprogram besides the PCM and ECM?A: CM Update Mode (from the MVCI, included with HDS software) and The Honda Pass-Thru Reprogramming (J2534) software will reprogram powertrain and non-powertrain ECU’s such as PGM-FI, AT, SRS, electric power steering (EPS), ABS, etc.
  7. Q: What is the meaning of error code 53 when trying to reprogram a control module?A: The ECU you are trying to update is not reprogrammable, or is not properly installed.
  8. Q: What is the difference between ‘Control Module Initialization’ and ‘Control Module Reprogramming’? 
    A: ‘Control Module Initialization’ is done after replacing the existing module with a new one. ‘Control Module Reprogramming’ is reprogramming (aka, re-flashing) or updating the existing original module in the vehicle.
  9. Q: Can I reprogram a Control Module (ECU) unit that is not sold through Honda?
    A: It is possible. However the Honda Pass-Thru Reprogramming (J2435) software has only been tested and confirmed using Honda genuine ECUs. Aftermarket or Remanufactured ECUs should be reprogrammed at your own risk.

Others

  1. Q: Can a J2534 compliant interface device and the Honda Pass-Thru Reprogramming (J2534) software be used to add a keyless entry transmitter/key?A: You can have a VXDIAG VCX Nano Honda or FVDI J2534 for diagnosis and programming. Both are confirmed to work!
  2. Q: I’m currently a certified locksmith. Can I reprogram keys with the HDS software? 
    A: Yes, provided you are registered with ALOA and have a current ServiceExpress Security Professional subscription.
  3. Q: How do I get the software to initialize replacement modules and what is the charge?A: If your shop has a MVCI, HIM or GNA600 interface, the PCM Initialization software is free of charge.
    NOTE: If you are trying to reprogram ECM/PCM/ECU’s or replace lost keys, this software will not work.
  4. Q: I currently have the Honda Pass-Thru Reprogramming (J2534) software. Will that allow me to replace the ECM/PCM? 
    A: No, the Honda Pass-Thru Reprogramming (J2534) software is for reprogramming (reflashing) only.
  5. Q: What is the difference between ‘Control Module Initialization’ and ‘Control Module Reprogramming’? 
    A: ‘Control Module Initialization’ is done after replacing the existing module with a new one. ‘Control Module Reprogramming’ is reprogramming (aka, re-flashing) or updating the existing original module in the vehicle.
  6. Q: How do I get a decent diagnostic tool for HDS? For personal use.
    A: If you just look for a working tool for functionality, it’s good to have a HIM china clone. It’s much cheapter than the dealer but share the same function. Link to HIM: http://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/honda-gna600-new-version-2011-v2024.html

Subscriptions

  1. Q: How do I subscribe to the Honda Diagnostic System software?
    A: Click on the “Tools Info” tab at the top of the ServiceExpress web-page for pricing and other tool related information.
  2. Q: Is reprogramming software included with a ServiceExpress subscription? 
    A: No, Reprogramming software for J2534 compliant interface devices is available free of charge. Please see Honda Pass-Thru Reprogramming (J2534) software on the Tools Info tab. A Service Express subscription is not required.